Comments on: Mapping Sudan http://southsudaninfo.net/2008/12/mapping-sudan/ A MoJo's journal of reportages, multimedia & resources Fri, 07 Oct 2011 11:58:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: widge http://southsudaninfo.net/2008/12/mapping-sudan/#comment-1011 widge Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:32:07 +0000 http://burningbillboard.org/?p=221#comment-1011 It seems there are a couple schools of thought here. Since I'm not an expert, I prefer to have multiple sources of maps rather than choose one over another for the blog's visitors. If you know of other maps about South Sudan that can be added to this page to make it even more complete, please send me a link. It seems there are a couple schools of thought here. Since I’m not an expert, I prefer to have multiple sources of maps rather than choose one over another for the blog’s visitors. If you know of other maps about South Sudan that can be added to this page to make it even more complete, please send me a link.

]]> By: Clarence http://southsudaninfo.net/2008/12/mapping-sudan/#comment-1009 Clarence Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:19:41 +0000 http://burningbillboard.org/?p=221#comment-1009 Don's hyperbole is shocking. The maps are "completely" inaccurate?! Where do you get that type of reasoning?? They are in full conformity with every standard world atlas, media and non-PC-victimized academic work. So you don't like the names he uses. Ok. you are entitled to your own opinion no matter how odd or out of main stream. But you radicalism and your hyperbole is not helpful to the South Sudanese or anybody. At least these others invest time and scholarship in their work. Do you have any maps of your own to post here? And that Ethnologue.com web site is an incomplete and patchy work of many contributors, some good, some bad and some so-so. For Sudan it gives just some patchworks of info, a few with a great detail, others with next to nothing, presumably to be completed later on. In its present state, Ethnologue is far from having anything as usual as the stuff by the likes of Izady. So, control your anger and dont throw around hyperbole. clarence Don’s hyperbole is shocking. The maps are “completely” inaccurate?! Where do you get that type of reasoning?? They are in full conformity with every standard world atlas, media and non-PC-victimized academic work.

So you don’t like the names he uses. Ok. you are entitled to your own opinion no matter how odd or out of main stream. But you radicalism and your hyperbole is not helpful to the South Sudanese or anybody. At least these others invest time and scholarship in their work. Do you have any maps of your own to post here?

And that Ethnologue.com web site is an incomplete and patchy work of many contributors, some good, some bad and some so-so. For Sudan it gives just some patchworks of info, a few with a great detail, others with next to nothing, presumably to be completed later on. In its present state, Ethnologue is far from having anything as usual as the stuff by the likes of Izady.

So, control your anger and dont throw around hyperbole.

clarence

]]> By: widge http://southsudaninfo.net/2008/12/mapping-sudan/#comment-992 widge Fri, 08 Jul 2011 18:22:46 +0000 http://burningbillboard.org/?p=221#comment-992 Don, Thank you for the input about Dr. Izady's maps on culture, religion and languages. Although I am unable to confirm nor deny your allegations regarding Izady's maps, I've added the map that you proposed from the Ethonologue website. I encourage readers to visit their website to learn more about culture, religion and languages in South Sudan. Don, Thank you for the input about Dr. Izady’s maps on culture, religion and languages. Although I am unable to confirm nor deny your allegations regarding Izady’s maps, I’ve added the map that you proposed from the Ethonologue website. I encourage readers to visit their website to learn more about culture, religion and languages in South Sudan.

]]> By: Don http://southsudaninfo.net/2008/12/mapping-sudan/#comment-967 Don Wed, 06 Jul 2011 05:22:33 +0000 http://burningbillboard.org/?p=221#comment-967 Hi! I just wanted to mention that unfortunately Dr. Izady's maps on culture, religion, and languages are quite inaccurate.. he is missing some rather large ethnic groups and his sources are probably more than 50 years out of date, some more than 100. As an example, "Hamitic" is a racist idea originating in the 1800's and popularized by Seligman in the 1930's in "The Negro Race", grouping together various pastoralist groups across Africa. Greenberg debunked the idea quite thoroughly in the 1950's, so anyone still using sources predating that is either not well informed or sorely out of date. Izady's information on languages, families, and their relations is not just out of date, it's completely incorrect.. if you want a more accurate representation of languages, try: http://www.ethnologue.com/show_map.asp?name=SD&seq=10 . It's not the best map but perhaps you can overlay it somehow? Hi! I just wanted to mention that unfortunately Dr. Izady’s maps on culture, religion, and languages are quite inaccurate.. he is missing some rather large ethnic groups and his sources are probably more than 50 years out of date, some more than 100. As an example, “Hamitic” is a racist idea originating in the 1800′s and popularized by Seligman in the 1930′s in “The Negro Race”, grouping together various pastoralist groups across Africa. Greenberg debunked the idea quite thoroughly in the 1950′s, so anyone still using sources predating that is either not well informed or sorely out of date.

Izady’s information on languages, families, and their relations is not just out of date, it’s completely incorrect.. if you want a more accurate representation of languages, try: http://www.ethnologue.com/show_map.asp?name=SD&seq=10 . It’s not the best map but perhaps you can overlay it somehow?

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